COVID-19: updates for Canada’s universities

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It is my believe; Since every University has their own opinion rules and their mandatory elements, etc. according to vaccination.
Neither to say not all students are vaccinated as well.
It can be for religion, health purposes or simply believes etc..
Therefore, the control to stop the speeding or trans passing different variants, viruses it will be impossible. Regardless if they are vaccinated every organism reacts differently.

I am a mother of two University students and they are vaccinated even I don’t think they will be in a safe environment surrounded by thousand of students without the unknown …
… It happens or it will happen? Just to have or roll the economy and making money no matter the consequences?
Sharing my thoughts and my concerns at the end would be a very high price to pay!

Will natural immunity be acknowledged? Recent science has supported evidence that those individuals who have been infected or had asymptomatic Covid exposure produce long lasting memory t cell protection. According to The Journal of Infectious Diseases protection is currently known to last up to 11 months.
Since Sars Covi 2 has been circulating for over 1 1/2 years, and know to be mild or asymptomatic in most healthy young adults, would it not be a reasonable assumption that many of these people have immunity through natural exposure?

It appears it is fear not science driving the need to mandate an emergency use vaccine against a virus that has a 99% survival rate for healthy young people. If you are requiring students to be in the vaccine trial for immunity sake, shouldn’t schools also acknowledge through testing, natural immunity, if it really is about health?

Excellent questions and important points! It is as though science and critical thinking have been thrown out the window entirely in response to Covid-19. Mass hysteria rules the day. Cancel culture destroys Western civilisation, as we all cower for fear of being cancelled or de-platformed. At what cost? These vaccines haven’t existed long enough to complete the full clinical trial process. We don’t know the long term effects or individual risk factors. Where are all the sanctimonious Human Research Ethic Boards members now? Nuremberg Code ring a bell? UN’s Universal Declaration of Bioethics and Human Rights? Canada has signed both.

University students do not live in an isolated bubble. They have grandparents, parents, and family members who they can infect without realizing it. Some of them will may get seriously ill and die. Even university students can have health conditions that make them medically vulnerable to this virus. Curbing community transmission is the goal here.
Your other arguments are spurious, and often used by anti-vaxxers. The vaccines have indeed been through the full clinical trial and approval process. Name one vaccine that has produced long-term negative health effects more than 6 months after administration. Over 8 billion vaccine doses have been safely administered worldwide.

Frances, the fear probably made you not look too far and see how safe they are.
There were children that died after taking the vaccines, CDC do not even publish the data for people between 18-49 , – if you take the vaccine or not first , you can get Omicron right after both cases , if you do not tale the vaccine , you built a better immunity though. Instead, young people ( especially male) between the ages of 16-30 are prone to develop myocarditis , an inflammation of heart for which Hospital of Sick children in Toronto opened a clinic for this specific issue after the teenagers took the vaccine and developed the sickness. Many other proofs are now available out there , you just have to inform yourself.
I am vaccinated and I got infected with Omicron after 3 months , my friends were not vaccinated and they had it too. All of us had the same symptoms , a sore throat for about 24 hours that got away with propolis tincture.
Please , I got bored of this term : anti-vaxxers , could you please use your own terms when you refer to people you do not agree with, try to not copy the narrative , try your own imagination, you will be amazed of what you can find about yourself.

In your stories, I think it is important to distinguish how various universities are using the term ‘required’. Currently, U of T’s requirement for everyone, is for people to self-declare. Proof is only required for those in residences, and taking part in certain activities such as sports, music, and some others. Everyone else does not have to provide proof, just self-declare. Whereas, other universities such as U of Ottawa means ‘provide proof of vaccination’. I think it would be very helpful if your stories could include info about proof required, or proof not required.

Here’s an interesting summary of the way universities implemented the mandates: https://www.beyondthenarrative.ca/universities-and-covid-jabs-mandate-or-recommendation/

So even though fully vaccinated individuals can get and pass on the virus, only unvaccinated individuals must submit a negative covid test to walk onto campus? How does that make sense if the problem is the spread of the virus?

Unvaccinated individuals are the most likely to catch and pass on the virus. Testing them regularly helps to mitigate this risk. While testing everyone (inside and outside the university) regularly would also help reduce risk, it is expensive and burdensome. The regular testing also helps to reinforce good habits like mask wearing and social distancing.

Do you have a reference on your info?

As far as I know, vaccines only help to prevent the late stage of illness. also, Vaccine protection only lasts a couple of months, like 8 months. taking additional doses is required to keep up with the protein spikes and the different variants.

Sorry, but they are really a vaccine. They are universities with professors in logic, math, Healthcare, and ethic. They should know better than us.

Unless the universities are been take over by politics and activists.

As a university student surely you can use Google?
Check the Ontario Science Table dashboard for numbers.
https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/

Current COVID-19 Risk in Ontario by Vaccination Status:
All numbers per million on each group, based on previous 7 day average.
Covid cases: 39.1 (vaccinated) vs. 212.1. (unvaccinated)
Hospitalizations: 7.9 vs. 122.7
ICU: 2.7 vs. 77.2
You can’t argue a case when you don’t know the facts.

If you would also do your own research based on actual fact and not ‘risk’ whatever that is meant to mean or represent, you would be able to see that what you are saying is in fact ridiculous.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations
The majority of current hospitalizations (ICU or not) are vaccinated people. Look at that! Vaccinated people are’ taking up hospital beds’. Great and effective 4 doses
Such ridiculous fake news being perpetrated everywhere.

Yes, it is my belief that Canadian universities have long since been overrun by politicised ideologues. That it has been allowed to get to the point that they feel justified in coercing students, staff, faculty and visitors to their campuses to undergo medical intervention which is still in clinical trial is a disgraceful violation of the scientific process, let along violation of human rights. No big surprise, just last week, the University of Toronto announced a partnership with Moderna for RNA research – the first such corporate partnership at a Canadian university. Gee, I wonder if the aggressive mandates which were implemented in such a way as to override physicians’ medical recommendations and sworn affidavits testifying to one’s religious beliefs had anything to do with such partnerships. The optics are atrocious. There are going to be some very uncomfortable court cases in the years to come.

How is it that an entire country of academics, who tout the TCPS2 values on human research ethics as though it is their bible are almost silent on the massive violation of human rights, let alone the bad science and flawed interpretation of the safety data on these vaccines, vaccine mandates and vaccine passports? These vaccines haven’t existed long enough to be subject to the clinical trial process. We don’t know if they have effects on fertility, let alone on fetal and infant development among children born to those who were vaccinated prior to or during conception. What if we’re forcing young adults to vaccinate only to render them sterile when they are ready to start trying for children? There have been zero carcinogenicity studies. There has been discussion among academics that these vaccines might be neurotoxic. What if they cause dementia? Cancer and dementia effects take years to identify but potentially increasing one’s risk is now the gamble one has to take in order to get a degree?! Are you kidding me?

Talk about white privilege. A bunch privileged, upper-middle class people who were able to afford to dedicate ten years to the pursuit of their research interests now won’t risk their cushy positions to stand up for human rights, equity, diversity, inclusion and ethical practice! What a bunch of self-absorbed hypocrites. Is this really the state of academia in Canada? It is disgraceful. You are ruining the good name of the academe.

It’s probably not surprising that typical anti-vaxxer comments are being posted here that are part of the huge misinformation wave being spread by social media. Scientific studies that refute your comments are readily available online if you can be bothered to look for them, which clearly you aren’t. Name one vaccine that has produced deleterious effects on fertility, foetuses, or is carcinogenic, neurotoxic, causes dementia etc. I’m afraid that you are deluded.

I can’t agree with you more, Helen! There is no safety data because the trials are still under way and won’t be complete for another couple of years. The trials are made up of all the guinea pigs who rolled up their sleeve for the “jab/stab”. This is a disgrace and a criminal act against humanity. At the moment, Covid hospitalizations are greatest among those who are fully vaccinated. Those who are fully vaccinated can still get infected and still transmit Covid. If the purpose of the mandate is to protect the health and well-being of the school community then where is the logic? The science is being ignored and shut down.

To Frances Sharom’s comments, you need to do your research! There have been thousands of deaths and injuries from these Covid vaccines worldwide. But you won’t see it on mainstream media where all you get is lies and deception. You need to dig deeper to get the truth.

People should be aware that “fully vaccinated” will soon mean much more than just the two shots you got. There will be lifetime booster shots to be considered fully vaccinated. You are handing over your medical freedom on a silver platter. God help you.

More conspiracy theories from the anti-vaccination crowd. I am a scientific researcher, and am certainly able to read and understand the many studies that have been carried out (and are still ongoing) on these vaccines. What are your qualifications in this regard? A degree from the university of Facebook?

I’m a vaccinologist. As a requirement of my profession, I have to be familiar with things like the Tri-Council Policy Statement on Ethical Conduct for Research Involving Humans, as well as the Health Care Consent Act, Nuremberg Code and the Constitution of this country, not to mention the clinical trial process, the third phase of which, these inoculations are currently under. How’s your hateful narrative holding up for you, Frances?

How is it that the majority of the country’s universities, full of scientists knowledgeable of human research ethics, medical consent requirement, statistical analysis, immunology, history, human rights and marginalised people who have been abused by government and health care systems, are completely complacent about mandating a vaccine which has existed for less than 18 months? We have only known Covid-19 to exist in humans since October 2019, less than two years, yet the vaccines are “safe” and “effective”? They haven’t existed long enough to make those determinations! They can’t have existed long enough to be subjected to the clinical trial process. We don’t know what long-term effects will be, both with regard to effectiveness and potential health problems, let alone individual risk factors.

It also merits noting that doctors and nurses are not given time in their paid workday to complete the 20-page reporting process for reporting vaccine related injury/harm, so physicians and nurses who do so are doing this work unpaid, on their own time. In 2010, research demonstrated that only about 1% of vaccine related harm was reported. Today, Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 vaccines has outnumbered vaccine injuries, than have MMR, polio and tetanus shots combined since the inception of the monitoring system.

Dalhousie University also has a vaccine mandate (finally): https://www.dal.ca/covid-19-information-and-updates/updates/2021/08/25/updated_vaccination_and_testing_requirements_for_students__faculty_and_staff.html
with twice weekly testing of unvaccinated individuals.

Our problem is, we have paid the fees already, and we have been vaccinated with WHO-recognized brand, but not recognized by Canada. The school all of a sudden declared mandatory proof of vaccination & noted brands that are recognized by Canada. How is this fair? Getting 4 shots total without much data, I’m considering transferring to a school not requiring, but also scared that they too will impose this. Why can’t the government accept all vaccines recognized by WHO?

Dalhousie has a vaccine mandate (as of August), and 97% of students who responded to a voluntary survey were vaccinated. Since only 80% of students responded, that could be a 80% vaccination rate rather than 97%. Student street parties shouldn’t take place at 97%, and certainly not at 80%. The students probably thought they were safer than they were.

Wilfrid Laurier just announced the “consequences” of being unvaccinated – not allowed to be on campus, removal from the MySpace learning portal and deregistration from the Fall term.

How is that allowed to happen – legally? How can one get a better understanding of our legal rights in this situation?

Good questions! Why would deregistering from online portals (or online courses) be necessary, for that matter? Is this virus now transmitting through the inter webs? That seems more spiteful/punitive than public health motivated.

The same thing that is happening in this article is occurring at my college(Durham College in Oshawa). They are enforcing this vaccine mandate and forcing everyone back to the classroom. I feel uncomfortable going back on campus with all these new Covid-19 variants and would like the option to continue online learning. I don’t have any say in this matter, does anyone know a method I can use to get help with this or start a protest.

It looks as though this running article needs to be updated. University of Toronto recently announced the first-ever corporate partnership with a pharmaceutical company in Canada. They partnered with Moderna to conduct RNA research. Their mandates couldn’t possibly have had any influence over that partnership decision, could they?

Does anyone know which universities in Canada have no vaccine requirement?
How about masks?
I see Waterloo region schools ended it this month…
how about USASK? Queens? UNB? U of T? UBC?